Hoyt (recurve) Avalon+, Axis, or Elan?

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Am ordering a set of FX limbs.  Would like opinions about using an Avalon+, Axis, or Elan riser? I’ve read what I can find on the net; your-all’s opinions would help. Thanks in advance. BTW: One person was suggesting I look at the new Martin as well…

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check with Seth Spraggins about the AeroTech   It’s the "Axis Light". > Am ordering a set of FX limbs.  Would like opinions about using an Avalon+, > Axis, or Elan riser? I’ve read what I can find on the net; your-all’s > opinions would help. Thanks in advance. > BTW: One person was suggesting I look at the new Martin as well…

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>Am ordering a set of FX limbs.  

Okay. I’m tempted to wonder why – when you haven’t decided on the combination. The same set of limbs in different risers will feel differently. >Would like opinions about using an Avalon+, >Axis, or Elan riser? I’ve read what I can find on the net; your-all’s >opinions would help. Thanks in advance.

They’ll all hit the middle if you shoot them well. No one can really advise you any differently. Depends what you are looking for – a heavy/light riser, a short/long riser, a pretty/ugly riser ) >BTW: One person was suggesting I look at the new Martin as well…

And then there’s the Win & Win stable of risers – oh yes and the Spigarelli, the Best, the PSE… I recommend you trawl the net a bit more, find a set of risers you like the look of then see if you can beg/steal/borrow any of them.

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PSE Universal Limbs

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Hi, one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if we need to consider replacing all of these limbs.   — Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Alex Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. Jane

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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See if you can upgrade to the PSE carbon limbs, which I have heard are actualy the Win&Win rebadged.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alex > Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are > experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a > limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. > Jane > Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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Yes, so we tacke OK limbs Alex Rodriguez schrieb: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. Charlotte – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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Having a bad day Charlotte?  Its obvious Ralf is writing from Germany so why don’t you cut him some slack?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. > Charlotte > Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > > Hi, > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > — > > Alex     __O > >        _-<,_ > >       (_)/ (_)

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1st) Yes, it’s a really bad day since I thread me through the NG today. 2nd)  No worth, the trip to Germany. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Having a bad day Charlotte?  Its obvious Ralf is writing from Germany so why > don’t you cut him some slack? > He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. > Charlotte > > Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > > > Hi, > > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, > average > > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser > pocket. > > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple > of > > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > > — > > > Alex     __O > > >        _-<,_ > > >       (_)/ (_)

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The NAA has posted (at last!) the results of the National Indoor Tournament. The link is http://www.usarchery.org/results/2001/id/start.htm arc

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Yup , I’ve had 3 set of limbs on my Mach8 in the last month.  All are poping off the laminated gusset near the fork at the end of the limb.    Shounds shitty to me.

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I’ve been shooting my PSE "Universal" 68 inch 38 pound wood limbs for about 4 years in senior olympic competition with absolutely no trouble. David E. Kerridge 5059 Weiss Rd. Saginaw Michigan USA Zip 48603-3752 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > See if you can upgrade to the PSE carbon limbs, which I have heard are > actualy the Win&Win rebadged. > Alex > Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are > experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a > limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. > Jane > > Hi, > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > — > > Alex     __O > >        _-<,_ > >       (_)/ (_)

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Recurve New limbs new string?

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  I bought a used PSE Coyote at 50# and being new at this I was in a lot of pain after a few days of practice. So I’ve decided to get some 35# limbs for it and I’m wondering do I need to get a different string when I put the new limbs on the bow? Thanks, Hugh Before you buy.

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:   I bought a used PSE Coyote at 50# and being new at : this I was in a lot of pain after a few days of practice. : So I’ve decided to get some 35# limbs for it and I’m : wondering do I need to get a different string when I put : the new limbs on the bow? : Thanks, : Hugh You can use the same string only if the limbs are the exact same length, since you are going down in draw weight.  Obviously, if the string is worn, you should replace it regardless. The only other thing to watch for is any limitation of the new limbs.  It’s uncommon, but some older limbs won’t take Fastflight string because the tips aren’t built up enough.  If the tips of the old and new limbs look substancially different, you’d better ask an archery shop person about it.  Otherwise, you may be risking catastrophic failure.

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oneida eagle owners

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Anyone out there who owns an oneida eagle bow. What do you use it for mostly, how do you like it?

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So, you’d say they are noisy compared to other bows?  Would you say that precision-wise they are as good as about any similar priced bow?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Although I haven’t shot one since I switched to longbow, I still own several, > including a Stealth Eagle, and used them for everything from target to 3D to > hunting. > Nice shooters if you can stand the noise. > A man that straddles the fence, gets a sore crotch

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Yeah, they due tend to be a touch louder than cam bows. It has to do with the string slapping the limb (like a recurve) and the limbs snapping together. There are various tricks that Oneida shooters have learned over the years to combat this. If you check their website, you can read some of them. As far as are they a good deal, I’d say you do get your money’s worth, especially on Lite Force and Lite Force Mag. Two of the best buys on the market. A man that straddles the fence, gets a sore crotch

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Lovely bow.  My second bow was a screaming eagle and though I have several different bows by various manufacturers (mostly PSE) since (it was stolen), I am contemplating the purchase of a new one as I give my current hunting bow to my eldest son.  What I always liked about the Oneida was its smoothness.  I had some mechanical problems with the bow, but those have since been addressed with the newer models.  As a hunting bow I find that it has a a number of advantages; At full draw you can rest the tip of the limb on your knee and hold the bow at draw for quite some time.  This was particularly useful hunting whitetails in the swamp on the ground where the drawing movement was a disadvantage.  Secondly, unlike all these one-cam bows, you can actually change a string in the field and get your bow shooting right in a minimum amount of time should you suffer an accident of some sort. I am an avid target shooter, so I expect a high degree of accuracy when I tune and shoot a bow.  The Oneidas are as good as any bow I’ve shot. Andy P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone out there who owns an oneida eagle bow. > What do you use it for mostly, how do you like it?

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I have an old oneida eagle i think its great i used to use it for target archery and it worked well for me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone out there who owns an oneida eagle bow. > What do you use it for mostly, how do you like it?

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I have an oneida golden eagle bow and have no problem killing deer with it. 30 in draw, 65#, 65% let-off. Very quiet with catwhiskers tied on at the string loops. a bit noisier with carbon but still have taken three deer in three years with two arrows,( reused same arrow second and third year) two spine shots with it, dropped seven deer in seven years with it. Very pleased with oneida and Muzzy broadheads.

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   I have owned and shot an onieda x-80 for the last 3 years and shot Pro-line,PSE and Browning before that. I wouldn’t take anything away from these or any other bows, but something just "clicked " with me and this Onieda. I am an instinctive shooter and shoot this bow off the shelf, no rest no sights no nothin. I took six deer last year 5 of these with the same arrow. I know what your thinking, yeah right!  This bow I would not trade for anything. It lends itself real well to my style of shooting, its what I have been looking for  a long time. A little noisy but I have heard worse. One thing that needs to be mentioned here is for hunting you need to be more aware of branches above and below your bow as the limbs flex much more than a regular compound bow, and you need to allow for much more clearance. Try before you buy if you can, I’m looking for another cause I’m gonna wear this one out! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone out there who owns an oneida eagle bow. > What do you use it for mostly, how do you like it?

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PSE Black Hawk

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I am looking for a pair of 30 lb limbs for a PSE Black Hawk.  Neither PSE’s web site, not those dealer sites I checked are any help. Are these things still manufactured?  If not, are they still available somewhere? Peter Kiss Before you buy.

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> I am looking for a pair of 30 lb limbs for a PSE Black Hawk.  Neither > PSE’s web site, not those dealer sites I checked are any help.

 I don’t know where you are located..but you can try here in CA. at High Tech Archery in Anaheim,CA Ask for Joe (seriously) He has anything and everything available. wPm —  S&B Enterprises     Sunland,CA. 91040         ‘..the MOUNTAINS are calling and I must go! <John Muir>

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Archers advantage software

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Has anyone used the "archers advantage" software? If so does it work?

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I have been using the software for about 3 years now, and it is one of the best investments that I have made. It can save you hours or even days of sighting in your bow. And it is accurate out to 100 yards.

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A very good investment, saves time and it is very accurate especially when you know your arrow speed with a chronograph. —

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> Has anyone used the "archers advantage" software? > If so does it work?

 Hi there Nancy Nurse.. hehehe    The answer(s) are yes..and not for me.. I do not have an arrow speed checker (Cronograph??) and it depends mainly on your arrow speed it seems. I still use the old PSE yardage chart from 4/1/74 (No not an April fools joke either) This works across the board on most yardage for all bows. I simply shoot in a mark (in my case) 30 yards and 60 yards.. put those transfer those over to a piece of paper then line them up on the chart.. mark the rest on the paper from the chart and go shooting.. Hope this helped you some.. and SHARPEN that needle PULEEEEEEEEEZE! hahaha wPm —  S&B Enterprises     Sunland,CA. 91040 ‘..the MOUNTAINS are calling and I must go! <John Muir>

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Hello Steve, Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I do not recommend using a chronograph with Archer’s Advantage (at least not without calibrating the software to your chronograph).  You can’t get two chronographs to agree on arrow speed much less my software and a chronograph. For example, lets say you have access to two chronographs and one is 3 fps faster than the other.  Which chronograph do you trust?  If you pick the wrong one and print out a sight tape from Archer’s Advantage using that chrono-speed, here’s what will happen.  Most people use their 20 yard mark as a reference with their Archer’s Advantage sight tape.  If you set up your sight with a good 20 yard mark but have the arrow speed off by 3 fps, you will shoot roughly 3-4 inches high or low of center at 80 yards.  I will never advertise that Archer’s Advantage is more accurate than anyone’s chronograph at determining arrow speed.  However, if you rely on Archer’s Advantage calculated arrow speed to print out sight tapes, I guarantee that you can get good marks from the software out past 100 yards.  In fact, James Despart (Former NFAA National Champion) has checked out Archer’s Advantage sight tapes on his bow to 120 yards and says that the sight tape is still dead on at that range.  He would not have been able to obtain this kind of accuracy by relying on a chronograph speed. Good Shooting! Perry

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: Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I do not recommend using a chronograph : with Archer’s Advantage (at least not without calibrating the software to your : chronograph).  You can’t get two chronographs to agree on arrow speed much : less my software and a chronograph. But if you don’t get a chance to shoot the longer distances very much, you can use a single mark and a chronograph to get you in the right ballpark. I used AA to shoot a FITA once and found that the settings were pretty consistantly one yard short. So I made another tape with the speed a few fps slower and the tape was right on. The new version looks like it’s going to be a winner too since it will compensate automagically for the actual drag of the arrow rather than just calculating it. I really look forward to it.         Marty Sasaki

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This sounds like something I could use!! Where do I get it and what does it cost?

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How did James Despart check out his sight tape  to 120 yards.  I thought they only printed out tapes to 100 yards. Or does the new version go farther then 100 yds. Bruce.  In fact, James Despart – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->(Former NFAA National Champion) has checked out Archer’s Advantage sight tapes >on his bow to 120 yards and says that the sight tape is still dead on at that >range.  He would not have been able to obtain this kind of accuracy by relying >on a chronograph speed. >Good Shooting! >Perry

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Hello Bruce, The latest version allows you to select the maximum range of the tape, from 50 yards/meters out to 150 yards/meters.  There are a number of other enhancements as well.  Upgrades are only $10.  Send your original distribution disk and $10 to the address shown in your About Box and I will upgrade you to the latest version. Good Shooting! Perry

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Visit www.archersadvantage.com.  You should find the information you are interested in, as well as various articles on archery (some previously published in US Archer and Archery Focus magazines). Good Shooting! Perry

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Has anyone else used the old Check-it sights rubber band with the scale on it, Pretty cool huh?

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Yes I have used it and it works.

Intro to Compound Bows ?

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ANyone know where I can find a site that has lots of information to help novices get into the sport. Like, what to buy, what all the terms really mean etc… Thanks

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You should visit your neiborhood library and borrow books on beginners archery and introduction of archery.  Then you can visit local shops for info and recommendations. Ronny

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>ANyone know where I can find a site that has lots of information to help >novices get into the sport. Like, what to buy, what all the terms really >mean etc…

Go to: http://www.thebowman.com/tbindex.html very good site!! If anybody need the same infos in GERMAN, go to: http://www.metrodix.de/archery/hinweise/ HTH — Bis denne, Sven

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Actually, when I bought my PSE Polaris express, it came with an excellent manual explaining everything. Maybe one of the sports shops will lend you one? Cheers mike

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Where are the archery retail stores in Atlanta GA

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Can anyone tell me where there are archery stores in Atlanta GA

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i’m not sure about atlanta, but out here in carroll county (carrollton) we have  the sports arcade. they are primarily archery and PSE dealer. not cheapest in world, but only one here and they are good- especially Dubba.       – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Can anyone tell me where there are archery stores in Atlanta GA

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ladies bow???

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Hi , my wife is presently shooting a pse polaris express and is now looking to purchase a higher performance bow in the mid to high end price range. She is a finger shooter 26" draw length 46 lbs draw weight( but can pull more easily) she has shot a bow with a 37"axel to axel without any finger pinch problems. She is a small person so weight is a factor and she would like something with some speed. We were wondering what models you would suggest us to look at and why.We shoot 3-d tournamenets every weekend but we also hunt so a dual purpose bowwould be ideal. Thanks, Ian

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> Hi , my wife is presently shooting a pse polaris express and is now > looking to purchase a higher performance bow in the mid to high end > price range. She is a finger shooter 26" draw length 46 lbs draw weight( > but can pull more easily) she has shot a bow with a 37"axel to axel > without any finger pinch problems. She is a small person so weight is a > factor and she would like something with some speed. We were wondering > what models you would suggest us to look at and why.We shoot 3-d > tournamenets every weekend but we also hunt so a dual purpose bowwould > be ideal. > Thanks, > Ian

My girlfriend shoots a Hoyt Defiant (now defunct) and loves it, she shoots it at 48lbs, with I believe PC4.5’s and is getting about 275fps.   Really sweet bow to shoot.  I might suggest as a bow to try the Hoyt Enticer.  I think that it is still in production.  Nice and light and pretty quick too. Andrew G

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Have her try the new recurve limb Martin Fury.  You can see it at www.martinarchery.com Terry

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Sorry, the fury doesn’t come that short.  Try the Bengal XRG It is almost as fast. Terry

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Check out the Blue Mountain Line.. I spoke with the V.P of the company about just such a situation and he said the big problem for women is finding an arrow light enough. There is an acc that might fit the bill but I believe its hard to find. The URL for blue mountain is on my home page…. http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/1491 I hope this is a start.. —

Dan Baker "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt. http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/1491

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timing

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I have seen multiple times people mention timing of the two cams and would like to know how to check to see if my bow is timed properly.  It is a PSE fireflite with a fast flite string.  How do you know if the timing is off?  Thanks

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>I have seen multiple times people mention timing of the two cams and >would like to know how to check to see if my bow is timed properly.  It >is a PSE fireflite with a fast flite string.  How do you know if the >timing is off?  Thanks

There are several ways and everyone has their own method.  This is how I do it. First, put an arrow nock on your string and then suspend the bow from the release that you normally use.  If you are using fingers it will be more difficult to get the timing right and you may need someone to help you. With the bow suspended from the release, draw the bow to full draw. Now look at the gap between the cable and the cam module.  This gap should be the same for both cams.  It the gap is not the same, adjust the cables until it is. If you are using fingers, get someone to look at the bow while you draw it to full draw. HTH — Terry M. Trier       Michigan State University When you arrive at a fork in the road, take it.                                 Yogi Berra

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: I have seen multiple times people mention timing of the two cams and : would like to know how to check to see if my bow is timed properly.  It : is a PSE fireflite with a fast flite string.  How do you know if the : timing is off?  Thanks I can actually feel it on my bow, but it has a much sharper valley than your Fireflite.  I like to check timing at peak draw weight, i.e. middle of the draw.  Find a specific feature on your cams, and see if that feature is in the same relative position with respect to each limb at partial draw.  You can do this by either having someone look at it while you hold it, or put it on a bow scale and hold it at partial draw while you look to see if the cams have "rolled over" the same amount.  If they’re not the same, you need to slightly shorten one of the cables to bring them into synchronization. This can be done by twisting the cable slightly.  Make sure you twist it in the direction it’s wound, though.  Hope that helps, Laszlo         Member: Wildlife Legislation Fund of America                 National Rifle Association                 Colorado Bowhunters Association                 Ft. Collins Archery Association      PETA– People for the Eating of Tasty Animals    

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Put the bow on a scale to full draw and look at the cams and if they roll over the same amount they are in time if not then you will need to twist the cable to take up some distance in the cam that has rolled over first. Usually, unless you have the equipment this procedure will take two people.

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: I have seen multiple times people mention timing of the two cams and : would like to know how to check to see if my bow is timed properly.  It : is a PSE fireflite with a fast flite string.  How do you know if the : timing is off?  Thanks This takes two people.  Draw the bow and hold it.  Have the other person check the position of the cams – both should be in exactly the same position, although mirrored.  The string should contact them both in exactly the same place. If the string is different, then the timing is definately off, and the cams are turning over at different times, causing problems with the flight of the arrow. Larry Diehr

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My 94 chevy 350 says to disconnect di timing wire prior to setting timing. Which connection is it? thanks

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My 1995 Suburban was under the dash on the passenger side, right next to the heater blower.

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It’s typically a single connector, brown or tan wire.

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I found a tan(I think)with a black stripe and small black connector taped outside the main wires by the heater fan.Is this the one you mean? Thanks

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>I found a tan(I think)with a black stripe and small black connector taped >outside the main wires by the heater fan.Is this the one you mean? >Thanks

Yup, that’s the one.

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Thanks to all!  It is the correct wire.I would never of thought to look there.I would think the DI  timing bypass might be near the distributor. Original owner 80,000 miles and first time I set timing. It was out by 8 degrees.Due to chain strech and gear wear I presume. New plugs,wires,cap,rotor and looking forward to better fuel economy. Next will be new o2 sensor and clean EGT valve. I only see one o2 sensor on single stock exhaust. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks.

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