club in Gloucestershire area

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> Hi, > Any recommendations for a club in the > Gloucester area (UK)?

<sigh> this time I’m going to teach a man to fish </sigh> go to http://www.gnas.org/home1.htm Click on "How to …." Click on "… find your local club" Click on "Western Counties" scroll down to Gloucestershire and there’s a link! follow it to http://www.gloucestershirearcherysociety.co.uk/ Click on "club map" chose a club Any of these clubs will have access to coaching at club, county, regional and national level. Hope this helps HooDooWitch p.s. Welcome back to archery etc..

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Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you like. HTH, -Mac

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> Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you > like.

I’m in Newent (nr Glos), but i’m looking for recomendations based on the place and people as much a geographic (which I can get from GNAS). Thanks! DV

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> Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you > like. > I’m in Newent (nr Glos), but i’m looking for recomendations based on the > place > and people as much a geographic (which I can get from GNAS). > Thanks! > DV

In that case, you might want to check out "Cheltenham Archers" (I shoot part-time with them too).  Great club, IMHO.  "Black & Gold" (Glos.) are a pretty good crowd too. Have you looked at www.gloucestershirearcherysociety.co.uk ? -Mac

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> In that case, you might want to check out "Cheltenham Archers" (I shoot > part-time with them too).  Great club, IMHO.  "Black & Gold" (Glos.) are a > pretty good crowd too.

Second that – I shot with Cheltenham Archers for a year while I was based there, but Black And Gold made it a hard decision on which lot to join! Jonny

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Hi, Any recommendations for a club in the Gloucester area (UK)? I haven’t shot for a couple of years, so will be nuff rusty! I’d prefer a smallish club, and I shoot compound. I’ve shot the bow once every few months, just to make sure nothing seizes up, and it’s feeling good. I used to shoot for Bowmen of the Deans, but their Thursday night meetings clash with university (although any other night would be fine). Obviously, somewhere with an indoor range would be useful in the inclement weather. I could travel to Herefordshire or Worcestershire if it’s for the right club. I’m not looking to get amazing at the sport, but want somewhere friendly, where I can get appropriate coaching to get me back into it. Thanks! Daniel Vesma

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GNAS Forum

Question:

Guys, Does anybody know why the GNAS Forum has been taken off-line suddenly…. I’ve read that nutters post below and went in for a look-see…but its dead now. David

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WebBat typed the following message: > Does anybody know why the GNAS Forum has been taken off-line > suddenly….

Perhaps because the clown below who bitched and moaned about it so much, and kept posting messages to their forum which had nothing to do with archery, it is possible that it might have been deemed not feasible for the admin to keep it up. So instead of a forum which may (or may not) have had some problems, GNAS site viewers have *no* forum to use for the time being. I don’t blame the admin from pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning going on for it to be worthwhile.

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Ron Reddon typed the following message: > I don’t blame the admin from > pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar > circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning > going on for it to be worthwhile.

Actually, I think I’ll modify this statement of mine… If I were in charge of their site, I’d take the board offline for a short time, and then I’d drop an .htaccess file (simply a text file named .htaccess) into the forum directory on their Zeus/4.1 server containing the following: <Limit GET> order allow,deny deny from 213.122.174.          * (block by /24 block-256 addresses) deny from 213.122.174.158   * (block by single IP if it is static) allow from all </Limit> One would remove the stuff in parenthesis after the asterisk before placing in .htaccess file like this: <Limit GET> order allow,deny deny from 213.122.174. deny from 213.122.174.158 allow from all </Limit> This would keep Ian, Locke or ekcol or whatever name he morphed himself into, completely off the forum using selected IP address(es), but would allow the abuser to continue to access other parts of the website. This way, the "rude" keyword could be deleted, and would allow others to post without fear of having their posts zapped, and would give the site admin better administration over the forum abuser. Just in case *someone* (Neil?) who might be reading this board wants to know how to remove this type of abuser with a little more surgical precision…

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Too late. The forum has now been "removed permanently due to sustained misuse". Interesting term, that, "misuse". I can’t ever recall a definition of it being supplied, but it seems to be "critiscism of the admin". So far as I can tell, there was only one person doing that… Unless it’s referring to the recent topics on the quality of coach training. But I can’t imagine how that could validly be labelled "misuse". It’s not as if anyone was saying anything which hadn’t been said before. At great length. On numerous electronic and print forums… ho hum. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ron Reddon typed the following message: > I don’t blame the admin from > pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar > circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning > going on for it to be worthwhile. > Actually, I think I’ll modify this statement of mine… If I were in > charge of their site, I’d take the board offline for a short time, and > then I’d drop an .htaccess file (simply a text file named .htaccess) > into the forum directory on their Zeus/4.1 server containing the > following: > <Limit GET> > order allow,deny > deny from 213.122.174.          * (block by /24 block-256 addresses) > deny from 213.122.174.158   * (block by single IP if it is static) > allow from all > </Limit> > One would remove the stuff in parenthesis after the asterisk before > placing in .htaccess file like this: > <Limit GET> > order allow,deny > deny from 213.122.174. > deny from 213.122.174.158 > allow from all > </Limit> > This would keep Ian, Locke or ekcol or whatever name he morphed > himself into, completely off the forum using selected IP address(es), > but would allow the abuser to continue to access other parts of the > website. This way, the "rude" keyword could be deleted, and would > allow others to post without fear of having their posts zapped, and > would give the site admin better administration over the forum abuser. > Just in case *someone* (Neil?) who might be reading this board wants > to know how to remove this type of abuser with a little more surgical > precision…

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I note that the official GNAS online tournament diary has now been permanently removed too.  Is the entire GNAS site going to disappear shortly?  How can the society justify not having these things on their site when so many other people do?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Too late. The forum has now been "removed permanently due to sustained > misuse".

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WebBat typed the following message: > I note that the official GNAS online tournament diary has now been > permanently removed too.  Is the entire GNAS site going to disappear > shortly?  How can the society justify not having these things on > their site when so many other people do?

I would surmise, the page has probably been removed, due to incorrect or abusive listings, perhaps put there by the whining little garden slug who came in here and bitched and moaned about their website. From the GNAS website: "The Online Tournament Diary has been permanently removed due to sustained misuse." Too bad… I’d say you can blame Locke, or whatever name it ended up under. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that most of the bogus entries in that diary were put there by him/her/it, which destroyed any value it provided to the overall GNAS web site. I don’t blame the site administrator for gaining control of their website. Abuse a site like that, and poof, it quickly loses its beneficial value not only for the web admin or other users, but also for the entire organization altogether. AAMOF it fast becomes a serious liability for the larger organization as a whole, to have their organization’s site (its "global face" if you will) turned into an abuse-filled hostel. Pretty sad that those who consider themselves archers can’t comport themselves on an archery site in a demeanor that exalts the sport, rather than acting in a way that serves to demean it, and causes an entire organization to consider retreating off the web. I guess Locke got what he wanted. You might ask him/her/it, if it was worth it.

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>Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I dont have a personal site, lots of >commercial ones….as I’m a mercenary and in it for the money ! >www.sofaworkshopdirect.co.uk >www.vivasofa.co.uk >www.volantia.com >www.argos.com >www.marksandspencer.com >www.bestofruralwales.com

are you asking us to critic your sites, who do you want us to send it to.. you, NAH,  better the owners!:>

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>Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I dont have a personal site, lots of >commercial ones….as I’m a mercenary and in it for the money !

<snip> > are you asking us to critic your sites, who do you want us to send it to..

you, NAH,  better the owners!: Geez, take long enuff why dont you ? Oh no, you may mail someone I once worked for….. Grow up, man. D

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Handycaps

Question:

Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a link to a site with info. Hands

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> Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a > link to a site with info. > Hands

If you are in the UK, unfortunately that’ll be a fiver to buy the GNAS handicap tables, and probably another eight quid to buy the rules of shooting. Tom — These Five Words In My Head Scream "Are We Having Fun Yet?" And the answer is …. definitely!

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The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm I don’t know how GNAS works out their tables, but with any luck they may be the same… Shawn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a >link to a site with info. >Hands > If you are in the UK, unfortunately that’ll be a fiver to buy the GNAS > handicap tables, and probably another eight quid to buy the rules of > shooting. > Tom

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> The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely > downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm

I had a look at the site thinking to compare with my GNAS tables but it did not work Austrailians appear to have a rating system so the better you score the higher your rating where GNAS use a handicap (higher score lower handicap) they also shoot different rounds (apart from FITA rounds). I would be willing to look up GNAS handicaps for people but will not type the tables in due to copyright (nothing to do with typing in 20 odd pages on numbers honest <G>) Carl Sans Sig

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Carl Thanks for the offer I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. What information I need to have like last three scores? Hands

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely > downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm > I had a look at the site thinking to compare with my GNAS tables but it did > not work Austrailians appear to have a rating system so the better you score > the higher your rating where GNAS use a handicap (higher score lower > handicap) they also shoot different rounds (apart from FITA rounds). > I would be willing to look up GNAS handicaps for people but will not type > the tables in due to copyright (nothing to do with typing in 20 odd pages on > numbers honest <G>) > Carl > Sans Sig

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>Carl >Thanks for the offer >I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. >What information I need to have like last three scores?

If my memory serves me, the GNAS handicap system works as follows: Take the handicap rating of your scores this season, take the best three handicaps and calculate your current handicap rating as follows: current hcap = (hcap1 + hcap2 + hcap3) / 3 When you shoot a handicap score which is better than your current handicap rating, recalculate your handicape as follows: current hcap = (current hcap + new hcap) / 2 Hope that helps! — Murray

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Murray How do I work out my current Handicap?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Carl >Thanks for the offer >I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. >What information I need to have like last three scores? > If my memory serves me, the GNAS handicap system works as follows: > Take the handicap rating of your scores this season, take the best > three handicaps and calculate your current handicap rating as follows: > current hcap = (hcap1 + hcap2 + hcap3) / 3 > When you shoot a handicap score which is better than your current > handicap rating, recalculate your handicape as follows: > current hcap = (current hcap + new hcap) / 2 > Hope that helps! > — > Murray

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As Murray said you start the season by taking your best three rounds from last season (if this is your first season then take the first three) then average, rounding up, each time you score higher. Problem being of course what is your best 3 without knowing your handicap how does one compare different rounds this is why I bought the tables myself. Carl Sans Sig

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>How do I work out my current Handicap?

I’m not sure I understand your question. You need to get the handicap tables from GNAS and use those to calculate it as I stated in my previous EMail. If not using the GNAS tables (e.g. the Australian system), then it’s probably best to use their rating system which you should be able to find on their website somewhere.

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Bow Rack??

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I have four recurves I’d like to hang on a wall mounted rack.  I’ve seen the racks from Ballantines and Peak & Valley.  Are there any other unique designs out there? I’m an accomplished woodworker and I’d like to see all of my building options before I start building.  Looking for ideas….. Thanks…Joel

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use a ten penny finishing nail.   Drive four into the wall evenly spaced.   Then use a 1/4" forstner bit and drill holes in the top limbs, about midway through the deflex.  spiffy and easy to take down and put up!  (JUST KIDDING!!!!) (having no good advice to offer, ski dog, I thought to try and be mildly amusing.  sorry <RBG> – but hey, it’s Friday night!!!) > I have four recurves I’d like to hang on > a wall mounted rack.  I’ve seen the racks > from Ballantines and Peak & Valley.  Are > there any other unique designs out there? > I’m an accomplished woodworker and I’d > like to see all of my building options before > I start building.  Looking for ideas….. > Thanks…Joel

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WTB: Yellostone string jig.

Question:

Hi folks,     I’m wanting to buy a yellowstone string jig and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.     I can’t seem to find a supplier.     Thanks in advance for any help.                     Mike McDaniel

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google search produces: http://www.thebowman.com/mall/cattool_stringjigs.asp from other links I found, they [who are they anyway ] say its the best jig; that should start a few posts. cheers Bob S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi folks, >     I’m wanting to buy a yellowstone string jig and was wondering if anyone > could point me in the right direction. >     I can’t seem to find a supplier. >     Thanks in advance for any help. >                     Mike McDaniel

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or you could make your own.  Check the docs page on the (sorry to say it again<G>)   TSAA website.  There is one that will cost FAR less than the yellowstone.   Won’t be quite as purty, though…. > Hi folks, >     I’m wanting to buy a yellowstone string jig and was wondering if anyone > could point me in the right direction. >     I can’t seem to find a supplier. >     Thanks in advance for any help. >                     Mike McDaniel

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Thanks Ron,     I built a variation of yours yesterday. Made a string last night. Works great and is very sturdy. Total cost was $24.38 + tax!             Mike McDaniel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> or you could make your own.  Check the docs page on the (sorry to say it > again<G>)   TSAA website.  There is one that will cost FAR less than the > yellowstone.   Won’t be quite as purty, though…. > Hi folks, >     I’m wanting to buy a yellowstone string jig and was wondering if anyone > could point me in the right direction. >     I can’t seem to find a supplier. >     Thanks in advance for any help. >                     Mike McDaniel > — > TexARC > publicize the sport of Archery! > http://www.texasarchery.org > Outgoing messages scanned for viruses by Nortons AV 2002

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always glad to hear when something good comes of the site.   cool and thanks… After doing about 1 dozen strings, I have become a LOT better making them then on the first.   After a few thousand more I might begin to approach Jane Jackson’s ability. <RBG> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thanks Ron, >     I built a variation of yours yesterday. Made a string last night. Works > great and is very sturdy. Total cost was $24.38 + tax! >             Mike McDaniel > or you could make your own.  Check the docs page on the (sorry to say it > again<G>)   TSAA website.  There is one that will cost FAR less than the > yellowstone.   Won’t be quite as purty, though…. > > Hi folks, > >     I’m wanting to buy a yellowstone string jig and was wondering if > anyone > > could point me in the right direction. > >     I can’t seem to find a supplier. > >     Thanks in advance for any help. > >                     Mike McDaniel > — > TexARC > publicize the sport of Archery! > http://www.texasarchery.org > Outgoing messages scanned for viruses by Nortons AV 2002

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ESPN column

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I know, this is not something that often covers archery, and this only does in the lightest way. Saw it mainly for the fun image they used on the index page – http://espn-i.starwave.com/i/page2/topstory/020226_bottom.gif and the column isn’t great – http://espn.go.com/page2/s/halloran/020226.html but it started me wondering – does that Korean lady (I forget her name for the moment) still have the world record for a FITA recurve of about 1380-something? And isn’t that about half a dozen points above the mens world record? Any ideas/comments/flame mail? Tom

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> And isn’t that about half a dozen points above the mens > world record?

Isn’t that what one should expect? M

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> > And isn’t that about half a dozen points above the mens > world record? > Isn’t that what one should expect? > M

Beats me. That’s what I was wondering. Tom

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the scores in the last olympics are somewhat exemplary – check the tables I put into the JOAD FAQ here: http://texasarchery.org/JOAD/JOADFAQ.htm > > And isn’t that about half a dozen points above the mens > > world record? > Isn’t that what one should expect? > M > Beats me. That’s what I was wondering. > Tom

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> Beats me. That’s what I was wondering.

Ladies shoot 60m while Gents shoot 90m. There’s the difference. Give and take 20-30 points. MA

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BUT the table is at 70 meters for BOTH sexes….the scores I cited are all at the same distance, I think, for the qual round which was 70 meters.   In that table there are the top 10 men and the top 10 women.  I even did it in pink and blue so you can more easily see that FOUR of the FIVE HIGHEST scores were turned in by PINK ladies, which makes the boys BLUE<G>…. apples to apples in that comparison, I hoped…. > Beats me. That’s what I was wondering. > Ladies shoot 60m while Gents shoot 90m. There’s the difference. Give and > take 20-30 points. > MA

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> BUT the table is at 70 meters for BOTH sexes….

Yeah, I noticed. In Sydney Ladies shot in the morning, when it was quite calm. At afternoon the wind was pretty nasty. The original post was about FITA- scores. M

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><snip> apples to apples in that comparison, I hoped….

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….    ;-) The ladies practice (probably) a lot more at 70m than the gents (‘cos it’s their longest distance), so of course they’re better (at 70M). You only have to look at the FITA 18M and 25M World Records (on the FITA website)  to see that the guys are way out in front.  That’s more apples to apples, IMHO  ;-) <RBG> -Mac

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>><snip> apples to apples in that comparison, I hoped…. > I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….    ;-) > The ladies practice (probably) a lot more at 70m than the gents (‘cos it’s > their longest distance), > so of course they’re better (at 70M).

So you don’t think the men practice at the only distance that *really* counts, the distance at which all the finals in championships take place? I must say I disagree. Bu then again, our practicing range is 60 meters long if we "stretch it", so I don’t practice much at 70 myself > You only have to look at the FITA 18M and 25M World Records (on the FITA > website) >  to see that the guys are way out in front.  That’s more apples to apples, > IMHO  ;-) > <RBG> > -Mac

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Hunting in LA County

Question:

I have a archery deer tag for LA County that I picked up since I moved to the area.  Anyone out there have any ideas where to start.  I am new to the area an live in Claremont.  Thanks TZ

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Rodeo Drive?  <akkkhhhh> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have a archery deer tag for LA County that I picked up since I moved to > the area.  Anyone out there have any ideas where to start.  I am new to the > area an live in Claremont.  Thanks TZ

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Hehehehehe…..now that’s good! Fred > Rodeo Drive?  <akkkhhhh> > I have a archery deer tag for LA County that I picked up since I moved to > the area.  Anyone out there have any ideas where to start.  I am new to the > area an live in Claremont.  Thanks TZ

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The area above Flintridge is productive for Mule deer. Big Bear area has some turkeys. Make sure you have somebody drop you off and pick you up in the Flintridge area. As to the locals are animal lovers and will slash tires of hunters. NOT KIDDING ! There are many areas. Go to the local bowshop. They will tell you where they hear of harvests taken.  Good Luck.

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I grew up in your area, now living in Mississippi, my suggestion would be to contact the California Highway Patrol office in Running Springs.  They spend a lot of time out and about and can probably tell you where they have seen deer on public land.  I had one put me on a very nice buck about 10 years ago!  Hope this helps. "Higgy"

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Tournament Organisation

Question:

Have put up a program for download on my web site (link below) to assist in running an archery tournament. Hope some of you may find it useful. It’s a first pass with all my built in bias for UK outdoor archery. Any feedback on what would make the thing more useful would be appreciated. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/joetapley

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well, you did mispell organizer (just kidding, you foreign guy you<GGG>) Downloading it now and have forwarded the page to the current  DOS of the Texas State Shoot.  He’s a mite bit busy, but if he has responses or suggestions I’ll forward it…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Have put up a program for download on my web site (link below) to assist in > running an archery tournament. Hope some of you may find it useful. It’s a > first pass with all my built in bias for UK outdoor archery. Any feedback on > what would make the thing more useful would be appreciated. > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/joetapley

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This looks great!   I would suspect that having a single page of "what this is and how it works" text would be very useful.   As the writer you look at the whole gestalt and know how it works, but as I look at the various options, it’s hard to know all of the steps one should follow, and what are the possibilities and functions inside some of the steps/features…. This program is a superb idea! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > well, you did mispell organizer (just kidding, you foreign guy you<GGG>) > Downloading it now and have forwarded the page to the current  DOS of the Texas > State Shoot.  He’s a mite bit busy, but if he has responses or suggestions I’ll > forward it…. > Have put up a program for download on my web site (link below) to assist in > running an archery tournament. Hope some of you may find it useful. It’s a > first pass with all my built in bias for UK outdoor archery. Any feedback on > what would make the thing more useful would be appreciated. > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/joetapley

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> Any feedback on > what would make the thing more useful would be appreciated.

"Any feedback on what I’ve forgotten would be welcome" A Mac version? — Marc.

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Hoyt riser brace height query

Question:

I am relatively new to the sport…have just purchased a Hoyt Gold Medallist recurve bow riser with Syntactic limbs. At the local pro archery center I had the very experienced chap make me up a new sure flight string. The brace height measures about 1/4" more than the largest height recommended for that riser by Hoyt. Is that likely to be a problem? Is there any stretch at all on the Sure Flight string? I have removed the most twists in the string I would like to see removed in order to decrease the brace height but that has had little effect. Any suggestions would be appreciated….Larry to send direct email remove "fake" from address

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>I am relatively new to the sport…have just purchased a Hoyt Gold >Medallist recurve bow riser with Syntactic limbs. At the local pro >archery center I had the very experienced chap make me up a new sure >flight string. The brace height measures about 1/4" more than the >largest height recommended for that riser by Hoyt. Is that likely to >be a problem? Is there any stretch at all on the Sure Flight string? I >have removed the most twists in the string I would like to see removed >in order to decrease the brace height but that has had little effect.

I would get a longer string.  Strings are cheap to make, or buy.   Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Hoyt recommend a min of 5 and a max of 30 twists. For full info go to www.hoytusa.co/technical and download the Recurve Manual pdf file. Ron Graves.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am relatively new to the sport…have just purchased a Hoyt Gold > Medallist recurve bow riser with Syntactic limbs. At the local pro > archery center I had the very experienced chap make me up a new sure > flight string. The brace height measures about 1/4" more than the > largest height recommended for that riser by Hoyt. Is that likely to > be a problem? Is there any stretch at all on the Sure Flight string? I > have removed the most twists in the string I would like to see removed > in order to decrease the brace height but that has had little effect. > Any suggestions would be appreciated….Larry > to send direct email remove "fake" from address

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PSE Universal Limbs

Question:

Hi, one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if we need to consider replacing all of these limbs.   — Alex     __O        _-<,_       (_)/ (_)

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Alex Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. Jane

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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See if you can upgrade to the PSE carbon limbs, which I have heard are actualy the Win&Win rebadged.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Alex > Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are > experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a > limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. > Jane > Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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Yes, so we tacke OK limbs Alex Rodriguez schrieb: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. Charlotte – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > Hi, > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the limb > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > — > Alex     __O >        _-<,_ >       (_)/ (_)

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Having a bad day Charlotte?  Its obvious Ralf is writing from Germany so why don’t you cut him some slack?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. > Charlotte > Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > > Hi, > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > — > > Alex     __O > >        _-<,_ > >       (_)/ (_)

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1st) Yes, it’s a really bad day since I thread me through the NG today. 2nd)  No worth, the trip to Germany. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Having a bad day Charlotte?  Its obvious Ralf is writing from Germany so why > don’t you cut him some slack? > He asked if any had same problems. He don’t ask for your OK crap. > Charlotte > > Yes, so we tacke OK limbs > > Alex Rodriguez schrieb: > > > Hi, > > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, > average > > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser > pocket. > > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple > of > > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > > — > > > Alex     __O > > >        _-<,_ > > >       (_)/ (_)

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The NAA has posted (at last!) the results of the National Indoor Tournament. The link is http://www.usarchery.org/results/2001/id/start.htm arc

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Yup , I’ve had 3 set of limbs on my Mach8 in the last month.  All are poping off the laminated gusset near the fork at the end of the limb.    Shounds shitty to me.

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I’ve been shooting my PSE "Universal" 68 inch 38 pound wood limbs for about 4 years in senior olympic competition with absolutely no trouble. David E. Kerridge 5059 Weiss Rd. Saginaw Michigan USA Zip 48603-3752 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > See if you can upgrade to the PSE carbon limbs, which I have heard are > actualy the Win&Win rebadged. > Alex > Contact PSE they are usually good about letting you know if they are > experiencing problems with a particular product. Sometimes the glass on a > limb will let go and it is usually an isolated problem. > Jane > > Hi, > > one of the shooters here at CU recently had their PSE Universal limbs > > crack.  These limbs were not very heavy, 34#, or shot very much, average > > of 100 shots a week over the last year and a half.  The front of the > limb > > cracked about 8 inches up from where the limb sits in the riser pocket. > > Has anyone else had any problems with these limbs?  We have a couple of > > other sets and we are wondering if this is an isolated incident or if > > we need to consider replacing all of these limbs. > > — > > Alex     __O > >        _-<,_ > >       (_)/ (_)

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