club in Gloucestershire area

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> Hi, > Any recommendations for a club in the > Gloucester area (UK)?

<sigh> this time I’m going to teach a man to fish </sigh> go to http://www.gnas.org/home1.htm Click on "How to …." Click on "… find your local club" Click on "Western Counties" scroll down to Gloucestershire and there’s a link! follow it to http://www.gloucestershirearcherysociety.co.uk/ Click on "club map" chose a club Any of these clubs will have access to coaching at club, county, regional and national level. Hope this helps HooDooWitch p.s. Welcome back to archery etc..

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Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you like. HTH, -Mac

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> Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you > like.

I’m in Newent (nr Glos), but i’m looking for recomendations based on the place and people as much a geographic (which I can get from GNAS). Thanks! DV

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> Whereabouts in Glos. are you?  I can tell you your nearest club, if you > like. > I’m in Newent (nr Glos), but i’m looking for recomendations based on the > place > and people as much a geographic (which I can get from GNAS). > Thanks! > DV

In that case, you might want to check out "Cheltenham Archers" (I shoot part-time with them too).  Great club, IMHO.  "Black & Gold" (Glos.) are a pretty good crowd too. Have you looked at www.gloucestershirearcherysociety.co.uk ? -Mac

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> In that case, you might want to check out "Cheltenham Archers" (I shoot > part-time with them too).  Great club, IMHO.  "Black & Gold" (Glos.) are a > pretty good crowd too.

Second that – I shot with Cheltenham Archers for a year while I was based there, but Black And Gold made it a hard decision on which lot to join! Jonny

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Hi, Any recommendations for a club in the Gloucester area (UK)? I haven’t shot for a couple of years, so will be nuff rusty! I’d prefer a smallish club, and I shoot compound. I’ve shot the bow once every few months, just to make sure nothing seizes up, and it’s feeling good. I used to shoot for Bowmen of the Deans, but their Thursday night meetings clash with university (although any other night would be fine). Obviously, somewhere with an indoor range would be useful in the inclement weather. I could travel to Herefordshire or Worcestershire if it’s for the right club. I’m not looking to get amazing at the sport, but want somewhere friendly, where I can get appropriate coaching to get me back into it. Thanks! Daniel Vesma

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GNAS Forum

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Guys, Does anybody know why the GNAS Forum has been taken off-line suddenly…. I’ve read that nutters post below and went in for a look-see…but its dead now. David

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WebBat typed the following message: > Does anybody know why the GNAS Forum has been taken off-line > suddenly….

Perhaps because the clown below who bitched and moaned about it so much, and kept posting messages to their forum which had nothing to do with archery, it is possible that it might have been deemed not feasible for the admin to keep it up. So instead of a forum which may (or may not) have had some problems, GNAS site viewers have *no* forum to use for the time being. I don’t blame the admin from pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning going on for it to be worthwhile.

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Ron Reddon typed the following message: > I don’t blame the admin from > pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar > circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning > going on for it to be worthwhile.

Actually, I think I’ll modify this statement of mine… If I were in charge of their site, I’d take the board offline for a short time, and then I’d drop an .htaccess file (simply a text file named .htaccess) into the forum directory on their Zeus/4.1 server containing the following: <Limit GET> order allow,deny deny from 213.122.174.          * (block by /24 block-256 addresses) deny from 213.122.174.158   * (block by single IP if it is static) allow from all </Limit> One would remove the stuff in parenthesis after the asterisk before placing in .htaccess file like this: <Limit GET> order allow,deny deny from 213.122.174. deny from 213.122.174.158 allow from all </Limit> This would keep Ian, Locke or ekcol or whatever name he morphed himself into, completely off the forum using selected IP address(es), but would allow the abuser to continue to access other parts of the website. This way, the "rude" keyword could be deleted, and would allow others to post without fear of having their posts zapped, and would give the site admin better administration over the forum abuser. Just in case *someone* (Neil?) who might be reading this board wants to know how to remove this type of abuser with a little more surgical precision…

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Too late. The forum has now been "removed permanently due to sustained misuse". Interesting term, that, "misuse". I can’t ever recall a definition of it being supplied, but it seems to be "critiscism of the admin". So far as I can tell, there was only one person doing that… Unless it’s referring to the recent topics on the quality of coach training. But I can’t imagine how that could validly be labelled "misuse". It’s not as if anyone was saying anything which hadn’t been said before. At great length. On numerous electronic and print forums… ho hum. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Ron Reddon typed the following message: > I don’t blame the admin from > pulling it. I would have done the same thing under similar > circumstances. Too much trouble with all the pissing and moaning > going on for it to be worthwhile. > Actually, I think I’ll modify this statement of mine… If I were in > charge of their site, I’d take the board offline for a short time, and > then I’d drop an .htaccess file (simply a text file named .htaccess) > into the forum directory on their Zeus/4.1 server containing the > following: > <Limit GET> > order allow,deny > deny from 213.122.174.          * (block by /24 block-256 addresses) > deny from 213.122.174.158   * (block by single IP if it is static) > allow from all > </Limit> > One would remove the stuff in parenthesis after the asterisk before > placing in .htaccess file like this: > <Limit GET> > order allow,deny > deny from 213.122.174. > deny from 213.122.174.158 > allow from all > </Limit> > This would keep Ian, Locke or ekcol or whatever name he morphed > himself into, completely off the forum using selected IP address(es), > but would allow the abuser to continue to access other parts of the > website. This way, the "rude" keyword could be deleted, and would > allow others to post without fear of having their posts zapped, and > would give the site admin better administration over the forum abuser. > Just in case *someone* (Neil?) who might be reading this board wants > to know how to remove this type of abuser with a little more surgical > precision…

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I note that the official GNAS online tournament diary has now been permanently removed too.  Is the entire GNAS site going to disappear shortly?  How can the society justify not having these things on their site when so many other people do?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Too late. The forum has now been "removed permanently due to sustained > misuse".

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WebBat typed the following message: > I note that the official GNAS online tournament diary has now been > permanently removed too.  Is the entire GNAS site going to disappear > shortly?  How can the society justify not having these things on > their site when so many other people do?

I would surmise, the page has probably been removed, due to incorrect or abusive listings, perhaps put there by the whining little garden slug who came in here and bitched and moaned about their website. From the GNAS website: "The Online Tournament Diary has been permanently removed due to sustained misuse." Too bad… I’d say you can blame Locke, or whatever name it ended up under. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out that most of the bogus entries in that diary were put there by him/her/it, which destroyed any value it provided to the overall GNAS web site. I don’t blame the site administrator for gaining control of their website. Abuse a site like that, and poof, it quickly loses its beneficial value not only for the web admin or other users, but also for the entire organization altogether. AAMOF it fast becomes a serious liability for the larger organization as a whole, to have their organization’s site (its "global face" if you will) turned into an abuse-filled hostel. Pretty sad that those who consider themselves archers can’t comport themselves on an archery site in a demeanor that exalts the sport, rather than acting in a way that serves to demean it, and causes an entire organization to consider retreating off the web. I guess Locke got what he wanted. You might ask him/her/it, if it was worth it.

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>Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I dont have a personal site, lots of >commercial ones….as I’m a mercenary and in it for the money ! >www.sofaworkshopdirect.co.uk >www.vivasofa.co.uk >www.volantia.com >www.argos.com >www.marksandspencer.com >www.bestofruralwales.com

are you asking us to critic your sites, who do you want us to send it to.. you, NAH,  better the owners!:>

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>Sorry to disappoint you guys, but I dont have a personal site, lots of >commercial ones….as I’m a mercenary and in it for the money !

<snip> > are you asking us to critic your sites, who do you want us to send it to..

you, NAH,  better the owners!: Geez, take long enuff why dont you ? Oh no, you may mail someone I once worked for….. Grow up, man. D

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Handycaps

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Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a link to a site with info. Hands

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> Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a > link to a site with info. > Hands

If you are in the UK, unfortunately that’ll be a fiver to buy the GNAS handicap tables, and probably another eight quid to buy the rules of shooting. Tom — These Five Words In My Head Scream "Are We Having Fun Yet?" And the answer is …. definitely!

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The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm I don’t know how GNAS works out their tables, but with any luck they may be the same… Shawn – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Does anyone have a information on working out handicaps or can tell me a >link to a site with info. >Hands > If you are in the UK, unfortunately that’ll be a fiver to buy the GNAS > handicap tables, and probably another eight quid to buy the rules of > shooting. > Tom

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> The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely > downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm

I had a look at the site thinking to compare with my GNAS tables but it did not work Austrailians appear to have a rating system so the better you score the higher your rating where GNAS use a handicap (higher score lower handicap) they also shoot different rounds (apart from FITA rounds). I would be willing to look up GNAS handicaps for people but will not type the tables in due to copyright (nothing to do with typing in 20 odd pages on numbers honest <G>) Carl Sans Sig

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Carl Thanks for the offer I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. What information I need to have like last three scores? Hands

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The handicap tables for Archery Australia are freely > downloadable at http://archeryaustralia.bizland.com/aa_rules.htm > I had a look at the site thinking to compare with my GNAS tables but it did > not work Austrailians appear to have a rating system so the better you score > the higher your rating where GNAS use a handicap (higher score lower > handicap) they also shoot different rounds (apart from FITA rounds). > I would be willing to look up GNAS handicaps for people but will not type > the tables in due to copyright (nothing to do with typing in 20 odd pages on > numbers honest <G>) > Carl > Sans Sig

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>Carl >Thanks for the offer >I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. >What information I need to have like last three scores?

If my memory serves me, the GNAS handicap system works as follows: Take the handicap rating of your scores this season, take the best three handicaps and calculate your current handicap rating as follows: current hcap = (hcap1 + hcap2 + hcap3) / 3 When you shoot a handicap score which is better than your current handicap rating, recalculate your handicape as follows: current hcap = (current hcap + new hcap) / 2 Hope that helps! — Murray

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Murray How do I work out my current Handicap?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Carl >Thanks for the offer >I wanted to find out more information on how to work out the handicap. >What information I need to have like last three scores? > If my memory serves me, the GNAS handicap system works as follows: > Take the handicap rating of your scores this season, take the best > three handicaps and calculate your current handicap rating as follows: > current hcap = (hcap1 + hcap2 + hcap3) / 3 > When you shoot a handicap score which is better than your current > handicap rating, recalculate your handicape as follows: > current hcap = (current hcap + new hcap) / 2 > Hope that helps! > — > Murray

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As Murray said you start the season by taking your best three rounds from last season (if this is your first season then take the first three) then average, rounding up, each time you score higher. Problem being of course what is your best 3 without knowing your handicap how does one compare different rounds this is why I bought the tables myself. Carl Sans Sig

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>How do I work out my current Handicap?

I’m not sure I understand your question. You need to get the handicap tables from GNAS and use those to calculate it as I stated in my previous EMail. If not using the GNAS tables (e.g. the Australian system), then it’s probably best to use their rating system which you should be able to find on their website somewhere.

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Scottish Clubs.

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Hi All, I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton. Any help would be appriciated. Neil

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> I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about > an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave > me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South > Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton. > Any help would be appriciated.

Try searching on GNAS and see what their site lists for Glasgow. — Marc. Welsh stickers at http://www.jaceeprint.demon.co.uk/welshstickers.htm Scottish ones at http://www.jaceeprint.demon.co.uk/scotstickers.htm

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>I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about >an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave >me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South >Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton.

Some links which might help: http://www.scottisharchery.org.uk/locater.htm That will get you club info directly from the SAA (Scottish Archery Association) secretary. http://members.tripod.com/david_arc/index2.html Glasgow archers Regards — Murray

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Giffnock Archery Club

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>Giffnock Archery Club

Watch you don’t wear out that keyboard…

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och!   you know how glib those scots arrrrr (rolling of r’s)…. >Giffnock Archery Club > Watch you don’t wear out that keyboard…

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Simple Handicap system

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Hi,  Our local archery club is planning to have a indoor 50 ft winter league and would like to use some kind of handicap system to give the competition some kind of validity for the competitors of different ability. I have read about those of FITA and GNAS but would like something easier, that we don’t have to use all kinds of charts to make the computations with. I realize these other systems would give a better representation of abilities but we’re trying to stick with the old adage "Keep it simple stupid" the stupid being me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Rudy

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The club that I am in use 80% of perfect with the archers average.  The average is the last three scores that the archer shot. Don Casteel

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, >  Our local archery club is planning to have a indoor 50 ft winter league > and would like to use some kind of handicap system to give the competition > some kind of validity for the competitors of different ability. I have > read about those of FITA and GNAS but would like something easier, that we > don’t have to use all kinds of charts to make the computations with. I > realize these other systems would give a better representation of > abilities but we’re trying to stick with the old adage "Keep it simple > stupid" the stupid being me. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Rudy

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Archery in the Scottish Highlands

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My wife and I are both interested in trying archery. We live in Lochcarron on the West Coast near Kyle of Lochalsh, and I work in Inverness. Anyone know of any archery clubs / facilities in the Highlands. please? Nick

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Nick there is web page belonging to the Scottish Archery Association but I cannot remember the URL. Go to the GNAS web site at http://www.gnas.org There you will find contact details for all the regions of the UK, there should also be a link to the Scottish site >My wife and I are both interested in trying archery. We live in Lochcarron >on the West Coast near Kyle of Lochalsh, and I work in Inverness. Anyone >know of any archery clubs / facilities in the Highlands. please? >Nick

– John R Grove

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There is a Field Archery Club in Inverness. I don’t have an address but you can contact the delegate of the Scottish Field Archery Associaton under: Charlotte – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My wife and I are both interested in trying archery. We live in Lochcarron > on the West Coast near Kyle of Lochalsh, and I work in Inverness. Anyone > know of any archery clubs / facilities in the Highlands. please? > Nick

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London clubs?

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Hi there I am interested in starting out in target archery, but I do not know how to find a local club (SE England… London… South London…!) Can anyone please help me do this? Thanks Jim

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Jim – try the GNAS website at http://www.gnas.org Alternatively, give me your post code and I will look up some club references for you from the Southern Counties Archery Society register. Chris Carroll

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am interested in starting out in target archery, but I do not know how to > find a local club (SE England… London… South London…!)

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try windsor forest bowmen – on the road between datchet and windsor on the rhs as you enter windsor might remember others, but you would need to email me directly > Hi there > I am interested in starting out in target archery, but I do not know how to > find a local club (SE England… London… South London…!) > Can anyone please help me do this? > Thanks > Jim

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Starting again in Cornwall

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Im thinking of starting to shoot again, GNAS and NFAS, in Cornwall. Which clubs are active, friendly and still have anyone using recurves in them? Chris Ellis

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Your best bet for information is http://www.gnas.org or http://www.bownet.com and follow the links. GNAS has links to clubs in your area and Bownet has links to all sorts of archery-related sites.

> Im thinking of starting to shoot again, GNAS and NFAS, in Cornwall. Which > clubs are active, friendly and still have anyone using recurves in them? > Chris Ellis

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> Im thinking of starting to shoot again, GNAS and NFAS, in Cornwall. Which > clubs are active, friendly and still have anyone using recurves in them?

Two things to try: the GNAS website (www.gnas.org) and Celtic Archery (a branch of wales archery specialist) who might know the local clubs; Celtic Archery Tel: 01209 831620 Higher Dowha Farm, Troon, Cambourne, Cornwall Before you buy.

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Thanks for those suggestions – I do know some of the local clubs, and have shot in the county a few years ago – but I dont know which clubs are feasible, have recurve members, "lady" members etc!  its the info you dont get that I want! I particularly want to know if anyone shoots NFAS as an independent. It is so dull travelling around the region alone!  Re GNAS site – I find they are more interested in national Squad archers not lowly First Class archers like me! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Im thinking of starting to shoot again, GNAS and NFAS, in Cornwall. >Which > clubs are active, friendly and still have anyone using recurves in >them? >Two things to try: the GNAS website (www.gnas.org) and Celtic Archery >(a branch of wales archery specialist) who might know the local clubs; >Celtic Archery Tel: 01209 831620 >Higher Dowha Farm, Troon, Cambourne, Cornwall >Before you buy.

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Cornwall Ontario? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Im thinking of starting to shoot again, GNAS and NFAS, in Cornwall. Which > clubs are active, friendly and still have anyone using recurves in them? > Chris Ellis

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> Cornwall Ontario?

Nope. The original Cornwall (UK). You can tell by the Archery organisations quoted – GNAS (Grand National Archery Society) and NFAS (National Field Archery Society), they’re both UK bodies. Good point though, we sometimes forget over here that North Americans borrowed a lot of names from Europe. Before you buy.

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Andover '99 Double FITA Star, a world record status tournament

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Southern Counties Archery Society in conjunction with Andover Archers and Old Basing Archers Present:  ANDOVER ‘99 Double FITA Star on the 24th & 25th July 1999. FITA & GNAS rules of shooting will apply. Rounds: Gents (Senior & Junior boy)              90m FITA Ladies (Senior & Junior girl)            70m FITA Car parking, toilets and showers on site.  Ample space for caravans and tents on adjacent field. Tent And/or caravan spaces at

London Archery range?

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I shoot with a club out in Hendon and Perivale but it’s a long way to go from where I live and it’s only twice a week. I’m looking for somewhere nearer the center of London where I could just turn up and shoot my recurve anytime in between my club sessions. Anybody know of anyplace like that? A sports center with a range as part of their facilities or something? Any help much appreciated, O. ps. Sorry for the cross-posting I just really need the info

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I shoot with a club out in Hendon and Perivale but it’s a long way to go > from where I live and it’s only twice a week. I’m looking for somewhere > nearer the center of London where I could just turn up and shoot my > recurve anytime in between my club sessions. > Anybody know of anyplace like that? A sports center with a range as part > of their facilities or something? > Any help much appreciated, > O. > ps. Sorry for the cross-posting I just really need the info

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>I shoot with a club out in Hendon and Perivale but it’s a long way to go >from where I live and it’s only twice a week. I’m looking for somewhere >nearer the center of London where I could just turn up and shoot my >recurve anytime in between my club sessions. >Anybody know of anyplace like that? A sports center with a range as part >of their facilities or something? >Any help much appreciated, >O. >ps. Sorry for the cross-posting I just really need the info

I dont know how far you are from Hampton Court but Quicks have a club at Apps Court Farm,     Hurst Road,     Walton-On-Thames     KT12 2EG     Tel: 01932 232211 hope this is of some help. – Neil Cairns.   "Home Rule for Yorkshire" ICQ UIN 14919237

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Thanks Neil. I often go to Quicks but I hadn’t thought of using their range and actually that’s a great idea cheers, O. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I shoot with a club out in Hendon and Perivale but it’s a long way to go >from where I live and it’s only twice a week. I’m looking for somewhere >nearer the center of London where I could just turn up and shoot my >recurve anytime in between my club sessions. >Anybody know of anyplace like that? A sports center with a range as part >of their facilities or something? >Any help much appreciated, >O. >ps. Sorry for the cross-posting I just really need the info > I dont know how far you are from Hampton Court but Quicks have a club > at Apps Court Farm, >     Hurst Road, >     Walton-On-Thames >     KT12 2EG >     Tel: 01932 232211 > hope this is of some help. > – > Neil Cairns.   "Home Rule for Yorkshire" > ICQ UIN 14919237

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