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Hi @all, hope someone out there is able to help me. I am a Archer from Germany. I shoot FITA no field. Till last year i shot Easton ACE Shafts, now I nedd new shafts, but the ACE are too expensive (25,– EUR each shaft). Does anyone have any experience with other shafts? And where may I buy them…. Some more information: I have a recurve bow (spigarelli with border ml2 limbs), my draw length is 28", and i have a weight of 39# Thanks a lot Archer

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>Till last year i shot Easton ACE Shafts, now I nedd new shafts, but the ACE >are too expensive (25,– EUR each shaft). Does anyone have any experience >with other shafts?

Why dont you shoot a good carbon arrow like McKinney or ProSelect? Quite good and much more affordable. Go to: www.bogensport-forum.de.vu There are all the german archers. — Sven

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Hello Archer: You might try Rauschert Archery.  I just bought 4 Dz. Carbon Express 200’s, with nock, and inserts.  Cost per dozen = $ 45.00 + 3.50 shipping, that’s total shipping cost.  Good deal.  If you would like, I can email you a printed flyer with the posted prices. Richard

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Hi, You may want to consider Easton Redline arrows. They are carbon arrows, as light as ACEs, come in the same stiffnesses and are compatible with "G" nocks and ACC points. They are almost as fast as ACEs, maybe just a little slower due to the larger surface frictional drag. They are of similar diameters as ACC arrows.  I switched to them from the ACEs that are significantly more expensive. In my opinion they are good value for money. I think the biggest disadvantage in comparison with ACEs is that they catch more side wind due to their larger diameter. You should be able to find all the info on Easton’s web site. Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi @all, > hope someone out there is able to help me. I am a Archer from Germany. I > shoot FITA no field. > Till last year i shot Easton ACE Shafts, now I nedd new shafts, but the ACE > are too expensive (25,– EUR each shaft). Does anyone have any experience > with other shafts? > And where may I buy them…. > Some more information: I have a recurve bow (spigarelli with border ml2 > limbs), my draw length is 28", and i have a weight of 39# > Thanks a lot > Archer

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I can say that I’ve had reasonable results switching from X10s to Carbontech McKinneys, and they are *much* cheaper (closer in price to ACCs over here in the UK). The cost difference is enough that I didn’t worry about buying a set "just to try", and I’ve never felt the need to switch back… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Till last year i shot Easton ACE Shafts, now I nedd new shafts, but the ACE >are too expensive (25,– EUR each shaft). Does anyone have any experience >with other shafts? > Why dont you shoot a good carbon arrow like McKinney or ProSelect? > Quite good and much more affordable. > Go to: > www.bogensport-forum.de.vu > There are all the german archers.

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> I can say that I’ve had reasonable results switching from X10s to > Carbontech McKinneys, and they are *much* cheaper (closer in price to > ACCs over here in the UK). The cost difference is enough that I didn’t > worry about buying a set "just to try", and I’ve never felt the need > to switch back…

Any suggestions where to buy the McKinneys in Europe ?  I tried several online shops – but most of them are exclusively favoring easton …  The only place I found dealing with Carbontech McKinneys is altservices.co.uk, with a price of 13.7 euros/shaft. Any comparisons of McKinneys and ACE/ACC ? thx -thomas — Center for Biological Sequence Analysis                   BioCentrum-DTU, Technical University of Denmark            ) Fax: +45 45 931585      http://www.cbs.dtu.dk/thomas       )                                                           /      … damn arrow eating trees …                     (

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>only place I found dealing with Carbontech McKinneys is altservices.co.uk, >with a price of 13.7 euros/shaft.

www.adventure-sports-net.de — Sven

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If you mean performance comparisons I can’t give you any, as I’ve never shot ACEs (I went straight to X10s). There’s been at least one 1400 FITA shot with McKinney’s with a compound, though… Weight: I think they generally come up somewhere between an X10 and an ACE (so heavier than ACEs), though at the spine I’m using there’s not much in it. Tolerances: seem to be good; I ended up with a set of eleven (unfletched) shafts with a weight range of less than +-0.5 grains from the mean shaft weight (the 12th shaft was about 2 grains lighter than the others for some reason…). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I can say that I’ve had reasonable results switching from X10s to > Carbontech McKinneys, and they are *much* cheaper (closer in price to > ACCs over here in the UK). The cost difference is enough that I didn’t > worry about buying a set "just to try", and I’ve never felt the need > to switch back… > Any suggestions where to buy the McKinneys in Europe ?  I tried several > online shops – but most of them are exclusively favoring easton …  The > only place I found dealing with Carbontech McKinneys is altservices.co.uk, > with a price of 13.7 euros/shaft. > Any comparisons of McKinneys and ACE/ACC ? > thx > -thomas

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Scottish Clubs.

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Hi All, I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton. Any help would be appriciated. Neil

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> I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about > an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave > me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South > Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton. > Any help would be appriciated.

Try searching on GNAS and see what their site lists for Glasgow. — Marc. Welsh stickers at http://www.jaceeprint.demon.co.uk/welshstickers.htm Scottish ones at http://www.jaceeprint.demon.co.uk/scotstickers.htm

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>I’m keen to take up archery, I’ve tried it a couple of times just for about >an hour overall and want to start out.  I used a recurve barebow and it gave >me a good taster. Does anyone know of people who shoot or clubs near South >Glasgow area, I stay just outside Hamilton.

Some links which might help: http://www.scottisharchery.org.uk/locater.htm That will get you club info directly from the SAA (Scottish Archery Association) secretary. http://members.tripod.com/david_arc/index2.html Glasgow archers Regards — Murray

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Giffnock Archery Club

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>Giffnock Archery Club

Watch you don’t wear out that keyboard…

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och!   you know how glib those scots arrrrr (rolling of r’s)…. >Giffnock Archery Club > Watch you don’t wear out that keyboard…

– TexARC publicize the sport of Archery! http://www.texasarchery.org Outgoing messages scanned for viruses by Nortons AV 2002

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Archery Clubs in Toronto

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Can anyone recommend an archery club in the Toronto area. I’ve searched online and only found three – one is near Orangeville (too far away), one north of Markham (also too far away) and another is at UofT (can’t join because they told me I have to be a current student or alumnus). I’d like to find a club within the city if possible. Any help offered is greatly appreciated. BTW, I used to belong to the Nepean Archers – near Ottawa – in the late ’70’s and want to resume the sport. I’d also be interested in some refresher lessons, so a club that offers some form of schooling would be ideal, but not imperative. Cheers, Dave

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Just do a search for Ontarion Archers Association and you will find every club availlable in Ontario.

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professional coaching?

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I know the answer to (almost) everything is ‘Join a club’…but there seems to be plenty of coaching available for beginners, and also for ’star’/club team archers…and not a lot inbetween. Someone like me who’s done a beginner’s course and now has his own gear and dreams of glory – well, there’s not a coach in sight. So..anyone know of any professional archery coaches? Do we have them in the UK? And is there one/some in Seattle?

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Ya know, there is something funny about coaches..They are expensive for one. There is no substitute for practice. Watch the "good" shooters in the local club.And try to apply what you see.Form etc.. And practice. But remember, you only have to practice on days that you eat.

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> only have to practice on days that you eat.

I will have to remember that one. Archeryking

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Archery Clubs in London, Ontario, Canada

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Does anyone out there know of any archery clubs in London, Ontario?

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Check the book …

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Hi Ted: Check with the Archer’s Nook http://mars.execulink.com/~archnook/index.html . They are a Pro Shop based in London Ontario, and I’m sure they can help. They are also a terrific retailer. I’m in Victoria BC, and I order from them despite the fact that they are about 3,000 KM away You may also want to browse the Federation of Canadian Arches’ Web site http://www.fca.ca/ as I’m sure they have a club list. Good luck…. — Mitch Rosenberg Victoria, British Columbia Canada

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> > Does anyone out there know of any archery clubs in London, Ontario?

Forest City Archers, c/o Penny Poyntz (519) 660-0155

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Thanks to everyone who replied for the information.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Does anyone out there know of any archery clubs in London, Ontario? > Forest City Archers, c/o Penny Poyntz (519) 660-0155

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Hoyt Radian

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Hello all, A friend of mine is willing to sell me his radian riser.  As I don’t know this riser very well, I would be grateful to hear some info about it. Isn’t this bow designed to shoot with a stabilizer?  I’m a barebow shooter.  Is it possible to shoot this bow without a button (centershot)? Isn’t it a kind of "waste" of such a good quality bow to shoot it barebow? Thank you very much in advance for any answer, Regards, Dom.

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Dom: My apologies if this is a duplicate message–I am confused about how to post replies here. The best place to get the info you want is www.student.utwente.nl/~sagi/.  This is THE bulletin board for target archery, with some of the world’s top archers and coaches.  There has recently been a discussion of various barebow risers there. I can tell you that the Radian has a great cult following among elite archers.  It is not made anymore, so people hoard them.  It is also most definitely not a barebow riser.  It is designed for use with a big stabilizer, and the better barebow risers have more weight below the handle in lieu of a stabilizer.  Also, your friend can sell his Radian easily for good money.  I myself might be interested. Check out Sagi and good luck! –Pat

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To all toxophilites reading the post below.  BE AWARE that the Sag board is not NOT not an  ALT / binary  group, and that you must follow the rules of the board – in essence, to display good, cordial manners and maintain consideration of others and respect for their opinions and perspectives.   No flaming, the SAG board is for LEARNING, not pontificating and being rude.  Stay here in the Alt groups for that<RBG>…. And before you start posting questions over there, try reviewing the archives for key words – you will find a wealth of information, without ever having to ask a (redundant) question.  And lurk long enough to get familiar with how things are done there.  It’s a great place. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The best place to get the info you want is > www.student.utwente.nl/~sagi/.  This is THE bulletin board for target > archery, with some of the world’s top archers and coaches.  There has > recently been a discussion of various barebow risers there.

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ACK… The participants of the Sagi blackboard are VERY protective of the board and are a fairly tight-knit group… that doesn’t mean that newcomers are not welcome, quite the opposite, just that spammers and idiots will not be tolerated. The search engine/faqs/articles/etc which abound on the site are a great place to start before asking questions.

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Dom: Don’t be intimidated about the Sagi board.  The barebow riser discussion began about halfway down on page 165.  The guy with the question, Richard, concluded that the Spigarelli vbs2001 riser is the favorite current riser for BB because of the variable weight system. They are $400 new from Lancaster Archery.  There has been nothing posted on the board – ever – about the particular suitability of the Radian for BB, so don’t worry.  We’d love to have a good old-fashioned girl like yourself on the board! ;^) –Pat (PBM)

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where to post FS for UK

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Hi all, where’s the best place(s) to post adverts to sell a beginner’s take-down bow in the UK (preferably somwhere near Oxford or London)? Ta for any info, Richard P

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>Hi all,

Hi. >where’s the best place(s) to post adverts to sell a beginner’s take-down >bow in >the UK (preferably somwhere near Oxford or London)?

If you mean on the internet, http://www.archerysmallads.com/ has a small following, but is the only dedicated for-sale site I know of. You could chance EBAY.CO.UK, but I don’t know how may, if any, archers frequent that. Alterntively, if you check out the GNAS web site and get the address of some local clubs, you could send the info to their secretaries directly. You never know. Cheers, — Murray

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> >where’s the best place(s) to post adverts to sell a beginner’s take-down >bow in the UK (preferably somwhere near Oxford or London)? > If you mean on the internet, http://www.archerysmallads.com/ has a > small following, but is the only dedicated for-sale site I know of. > You could chance EBAY.CO.UK, but I don’t know how may, if any, archers > frequent that. > Alterntively, if you check out the GNAS web site and get the address

Thanks for the info! Richard

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>Hi all, >where’s the best place(s) to post adverts to sell a beginner’s take-down >bow in >the UK (preferably somwhere near Oxford or London)? >Ta for any info, >Richard P

Try www.gnas.org then click on links and look for archery web sites that are neer you. Luck Neil

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Learning the sport

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I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

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>I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have >details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

Go here to find some contact details: http://www.gnas.org/pages/info.htm — Murray

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> I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have > details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

You’ll be best off talking to the relevant County officers for your area (Buckinghamshire/Hertfordshire by the sound of it). Try the "how to find your local club", bit on: www.gnas.org At a guess there’s probably somewhere in the region of 5 – 10 clubs, in, or close to the area you’ve defined. Before you buy.

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Go to the GNAS site at http://www.gnas.org/home1.htm and click on "find your local club" Donald – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have > details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

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Field archery club details are available at http://www.clark-1.demon.co.uk/nfas/ Look in previous newsletters for current contacts. Danny – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have > details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

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Go to the GNAS web site at http://www.gnas.org where you can get contact details for your county’s archery organisation. There is an archery shop at Buckland, Aston Clinton just outside Aylesbury. Buckland archers are based there they have outdoor and indoor ranges on site. Go to the shop and see Martin Saunders for details. But if you live nearer Hemel Hempstead I am sure there will be clubs nearer to you. >I am very interested in taking up archery.  Can anyone put me let me have >details of a club local to Hemel Hempstead, Aylesbury, Chesham?

– John R Grove

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> But if you live nearer Hemel Hempstead I am sure there will be clubs > nearer to you.

Used to be a fine club in Berkhamstead (guess where I once shot a lemonwood flatbow, made by Slazenger, no less!). But I haven’t been in the UK for 25 years. Ian

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Arrows Again…

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James Bingham’s dad just helps me out really, I ment to say that he who helps me out is the coach of James Bingham and also his dad and why does Ian Crowther have to come into things? I’m leaving this newsgroup immediately as some people are helpful others just come back with smart comments and insults.

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THE price one pays when posting a question to people around the world, asking these people for  FREE advice, David, is that you will get diverse viewpoints. I just reviewed the thread of responses to your rather weakly composed message.   THe vast majority of respondees tried to offer helpful information – one or two were rather pointed in the questions they posed in response, but FREE advice is what you asked for. Don’t complain when you get it, and don’t like some of the answers<G>.  (Some people up here are still testy from a nasty non-archery thread awhile back, I think….) And don’t LEAVE unless you are certain that there is nothing you can learn from the archers up here.   And if you already know EVERYTHING, then PLEASE stay here and try and help others.  It’s the mature thing to do. > James Bingham’s dad just helps me out really, I ment to say that he who > helps me out is the coach of James Bingham and also his dad and why does Ian > Crowther have to come into things? > I’m leaving this newsgroup immediately as some people are helpful others > just come back with smart comments and insults.

– ARC in  Lago Vista, TX Newton died, Einstein died, and I’m not felling well…

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>And don’t LEAVE unless you are certain that there is nothing you can learn from >the archers up here.   And if you already know EVERYTHING, then PLEASE stay here >and try and help others.  It’s the mature thing to do.

YES, that is Usenet!! — Sven

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Q: How many usenet users does it take to change a light bulb? A:  Shut up you *sshole, the light’s not burned out, you’re just blind. OR A: 1,331:      1   to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light bulb has been changed     14  to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently.      7   to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.     27  to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.     53 to flame the spell checkers    156  to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this         mail list.     41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.    109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb    203  to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be         stopped.    111  to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to         this mail list.    306  to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light         bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.     27  to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs     14  to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs.      3   to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this         list.     33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."     12  to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.     19   to quote the "Me Too’s" to say, "Me Three."      4   to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.      1   to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.     47   to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here.    143  votes for alt.lite.bulb. >And don’t LEAVE unless you are certain that there is nothing you can learn from >the archers up here.   And if you already know EVERYTHING, then PLEASE stay here >and try and help others.  It’s the mature thing to do. > YES, that is Usenet!! > — > Sven

– ARC in  Lago Vista, TX A hen is an egg’s way of making another egg.

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PSE bow for sale

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Hi, this newsgroup IS NOT a binaries group… MA

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Suman, your posting is fine. Not everyone that shoots traditional archery is as closed minded as the few that have replied to your posting. This could just be the response of a few bored archers. Thank You, Kevin traditionalbowyer

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