Stabilizer
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Hi: I broke my stabliizer last year while climbing over some blowdowns. I have shot without one for about 6 months now and have decided that I want to get another on as I have noticed that since mine broke I have trouble holding my bow vertical while aiming. Any suggestions about hydrolic v. non-hydrolic or maker? any help would be appreciated. Chris Brown
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>I had the same problem
What worked for me was the "ACE MAGNUM HYDRAULIC STABILIZER" from golden key. It comes with three additional weight to add on if you like. I found out I’m more stable and can dial my shot in a tight pattern. good luck Chris kardassis form The Great White North Canada
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How can I determine what stabilizer to put on my bow? I have a Hoyt Magnatec, 70 # pull. I mainly hunt with this bow, so I don’t want a stabilizer that is to big .
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John, Try the NAP ShockBlcker its fantastic.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> How can I determine what stabilizer to put on my bow? I have a Hoyt > Magnatec, 70 # pull. I mainly hunt with this bow, so I don’t want a > stabilizer that is to big .
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Do what I did, go to your local archery shop and try all the different ones. I took my shop owners advice and tried the " Doinker." Wasn’t what I went looking for, but after I shot it, I realized it was what I wanted! ( 7 inches I think)
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Hello everyone Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but being a machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Dave
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Hi, I think the stabilizers are made out of carbon fiber rods. I did a search and found the following site. http://www.centralhobbies.com/Accessories/carbrod.html They list rods from 1/8-3/16" up to 36" long. Bill * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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> Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that >would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make >stabilizer bars.
When I was into model airplanes I bought a bunch of carbon tubes from an outfit named something like AeroSpace Composites. Check the rec.models.xxx.xxx groups or do a Web search. A Dejanews search on rec.models….. for AeroSpace Composites might lead you in the right direction.
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: Hello everyone : Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that : would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make : stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but being a : machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any help : would be appreciated. Dave, Sure! I made one a couple years ago and really like it. I went for very light and long with a standard 5/16"-24 stud in each end for bow/weight attachment. I found an excellent place for small quantity carbon tube purchases: AEROSPACE COMPOSITE PRODUCTS 14210 Doolittle Drive San Leandro, Ca 94577 Order Desk:800-811-2009 Technical Asst:510-352-2022 FAX:510-352-2021 http://www.deltronix.com/public/acp/ACP-CAT.HTM I used the 3/4" ID tube and it is very, very stiff. I’ve been threatening to make another out or 1/2" or multiple 1/4" but haven’t done it yet. One thing I did find was that the bow attach end had to be an outsert as there is enough force that I split the tube initially when I was using an insert: Bow attach end: __| | |__|–| I made the side walls surrounding the tube 1/8" thick and the base 1/4" thick, drilled and tapped and used a 5/16"-24 SS Socket Head Cap Screw locktited in place. Roughed up the outside of the tube and inside of the sleeve and glued it in with 24 hour epoxy. It’s helpful to align the tube/sleeve on a lathe while gluing as the OD of the tube is not exact since it’s wound on a drill rod blank, the ID is good, I chucked the sleeve and put the other end of the tube over a center in the tailstock. Good luck, I’d be interested in hearing what you do and how it turns out. -Scot — *** ANTI-SPAM ALERT *** Note the "removethis." in the return address. *** Scot E. Heath, P.E. "Nothing beats turning clay to dust." Fort Collins, CO
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Well, Carbofast in Ireland or a kite shop but I’ve been going to a local golf club repair shop and asking for their broken carbon shafts.I’ve made a few and they work pretty well. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hello everyone > Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that > would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make > stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but being a > machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks Dave
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Got any more hints on that ? I am thinking about making my own stabs that way. Could use some veteran advice, so I don`t make the same mistakes. Thanks ! Marc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well, Carbofast in Ireland or a kite shop but I’ve been going to a local >golf club repair shop and asking for their broken carbon shafts.I’ve made a >few and they work pretty well. > Hello everyone > Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that > would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make > stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but being a > machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks Dave
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Hello Marc I’m always glad to help out a fello archer. When I do get a source lined up for the carbon fibre, I will let you know how I made mine, and give you any advise that I possibly can too. I do have a couple of places lined up to get the rods, and as soon as they get back to me, I will get the material, and get started. Be talking to ya soon. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Got any more hints on that ? I am thinking about making my own stabs > that way. > Could use some veteran advice, so I don`t make the same mistakes. > Thanks ! > Marc >Well, Carbofast in Ireland or a kite shop but I’ve been going to a > local >golf club repair shop and asking for their broken carbon shafts.I’ve > made a >few and they work pretty well. >> Hello everyone >> Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies > that >> would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make >> stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but > being a >> machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any > help >> would be appreciated. >> Thanks Dave
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Well, the carbon graphite golf shafts tend to break just above the club head so nearly all the shaft is available to use and you can make different lengths, even side rods. I strip off the grip and then trim the club head end up so there are no shattered stringy pieces, usually not much trimming is needed and I use my Dremel tool.The trick, of course is to manufacture some sort of connection to the bow. I start with the correct size bolt or stud for the bow and the correct smaller one for the other end. I’ve tried several options, so far all aimed at having an internal, glued-in arragement rather than an external ferrule type because I can do the internal stuff in the garage after a trip to the hardware store. I’ve tried a bolt with a head big enough to wedge down into the shaft and then fill in with Bondo (worked OK but the Bondo doesnt bond well and I had to epoxy that in after it cured) to using a stud and nuts and epoxying in the nuts. My current favorite is I found a pretty hard rubber stopper-like thing at a specialty fastener store that fit well into the shaft. It already had a center hole so I greased up a stud with epoxy and screwed it in and let the epoxy set, then glued the rubber into the shaft. So far so good and I rationalize the rubber helps absorb vibrations. The other end is a bit trickier for me because the ID of a golf shaft at that end is quite small although the walls are pretty thick. To get the right size stud in there I’ve had to drill it out a bit and without more equipment than my Black and Decker cordless it is a bit dicey which is to say I’ve drilled out the side of the shaft at least once. However, for one of the kids who didn’t want or need extra weight anyway, I added a bigger rubber stopper thing and glued it on. That’s working just fine and looks like poor man’s Limb Saver. The thing I like about the golf shafts is they are made to take some tremendous forces while keeping a resonance. (not to mention cheap) If you hold one of the bare shafts at just the right spot, about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up and tap it on the ground, they feel like a tuning fork. So I’m playing around with these things and trying them on myself and kids who need lightweight but want to look like the big boys. What do I actually use though? I love my new Genisis five-star by Don Kudlacek. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Got any more hints on that ? I am thinking about making my own stabs > that way. > Could use some veteran advice, so I don`t make the same mistakes. > Thanks ! > Marc >Well, Carbofast in Ireland or a kite shop but I’ve been going to a > local >golf club repair shop and asking for their broken carbon shafts.I’ve > made a >few and they work pretty well. >> Hello everyone >> Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies > that >> would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make >> stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but > being a >> machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any > help >> would be appreciated. >> Thanks Dave
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Check out kite supply places. Carbon kite spars are relatively inexpensive. Two sources in the USA are Hang-em High Fabrics, and the Kite Studio. A list of online kite resources are in www.kfs.org/kites. Marty Sasaki
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thanks for the advice… Guess I will be spending some time at ACE after I get done begging at the golf shop
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Well, the carbon graphite golf shafts tend to break just above the club >head so nearly all the shaft is available to use and you can make >different lengths, even side rods. I strip off the grip and then trim the >club head end up so there are no shattered stringy pieces, usually not >much trimming is needed and I use my Dremel tool.The trick, of course is >to manufacture some sort of connection to the bow. I start with the >correct size bolt or stud for the bow and the correct smaller one for the >other end. I’ve tried several options, so far all aimed at having an >internal, glued-in arragement rather than an external ferrule type >because I can do the internal stuff in the garage after a trip to the >hardware store. I’ve tried a bolt with a head big enough to wedge down >into the shaft and then fill in with Bondo (worked OK but the Bondo >doesnt bond well and I had to epoxy that in after it cured) to using a >stud and nuts and epoxying in the nuts. My current favorite is I found a >pretty hard rubber stopper-like thing at a specialty fastener store that >fit well into the shaft. It already had a center hole so I greased up a >stud with epoxy and screwed it in and let the epoxy set, then glued the >rubber into the shaft. So far so good and I rationalize the rubber helps >absorb vibrations. The other end is a bit trickier for me because the ID >of a golf shaft at that end is quite small although the walls are pretty >thick. To get the right size stud in there I’ve had to drill it out a bit >and without more equipment than my Black and Decker cordless it is a bit >dicey which is to say I’ve drilled out the side of the shaft at least >once. However, for one of the kids who didn’t want or need extra weight >anyway, I added a bigger rubber stopper thing and glued it on. That’s >working just fine and looks like poor man’s Limb Saver. >The thing I like about the golf shafts is they are made to take some >tremendous forces while keeping a resonance. (not to mention cheap) If >you hold one of the bare shafts at just the right spot, about 2/3 to 3/4 >of the way up and tap it on the ground, they feel like a tuning fork. >So I’m playing around with these things and trying them on myself and >kids who need lightweight but want to look like the big boys. >What do I actually use though? I love my new Genisis five-star by Don >Kudlacek. > Got any more hints on that ? I am thinking about making my own stabs > that way. > Could use some veteran advice, so I don`t make the same mistakes. > Thanks ! > Marc Hills > >Well, Carbofast in Ireland or a kite shop but I’ve been going to a > local > >golf club repair shop and asking for their broken carbon shafts.I’ve > made a > >few and they work pretty well. > >> Hello everyone > >> Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies > that > >> would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make > >> stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but > being a > >> machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any > help > >> would be appreciated. > >> Thanks Dave
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The easiest way would be to buy a couple of carbon arrows; a friend of mine did this and it works beautifully. > Hello everyone > Can any one give me any good sites or addresses of any companies that > would be a good source for some carbon fibre tube material to make > stabilizer bars. I know that it might be cheaper to buy one, but being a > machinist, I do like making some of the toys that I play with. Any help > would be appreciated. > Thanks Dave
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